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Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:02 pm
by Mike Perez
Hello.
I just plugged the rear pickup cavity to an old solid body electric guitar.
I used poplar and made it just shy of the back surface so I could inlay some thin mahogany for a flush surface.
The mahogany came out okay. I had some gaps between the cavity and the thin mahogany piece.
The cap was crisp but the old recess was hand routed and as you can see, a bit crooked.
Because the old finish was black, you can see black in the gaps.
I plan in cutting away some of the black material and filling it in with mahogany dust and glue, but the Titebond will not allow any stain.
Would a different glue work better?
I plan on staining it and clear coating it.
At this point mahogany dust with yellow tinted glue is better than black streaks.
Any suggestions would be apprenticed.

Thank you,
Mike

Guitar back fill.jpg

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:40 pm
by Mike Perez
Would something like Timbermate be a simple solution?

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:18 pm
by Marshall Dixon
Mike Perez wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:40 pm Would something like Timbermate be a simple solution?
I don't know if this will help but Titebond can be stained a gun metal blue color with tincture of iodine. I've done it where it came out quite dark after several applications though not a true black.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:20 pm
by Bob Gramann
Why not rout a little shelf around the opening and make the mahogany filler fit that rabbet? Any gaps would be the same color and wouldn’t require filler to look professional. Timbermate will look like you pushed putty in the gaps and will shrink later and leave depressions.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:50 pm
by Mike Perez
Bob,
Do you mean something like this, where I can inlay some strips of mahogany into the route channel?

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:53 am
by Bob Gramann
Yes, but much smaller and closer to the original outline so that you don’t go out to the edge. It will look better if you redo the mahogany patch as one piece rather than inlay strips. Making a template to guide the router will increase the odds of your success. You can make the template several times until you get the shape right before you route the guitar.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:48 am
by Mike Perez
I think you're right.
I was trying to save as mush of the original wood and that just made the "patch" too complex.
I will route more and square it off to make a tight fit much easier.
The edge doesn't matter as I am going to add binding to both sides.
'Can't chose between white plastic, curly maple or rope binding.
I'm leaning toward rope binding.
Thank you.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:28 pm
by Mike Perez
I decided to take the advice and simply made a new cap.
A simple template and some sanding gave me a near perfect fit.
The grain was close but not an issue.
The body has a light shellac finish but not the cap.
Oh, after seeing a mahogany acoustic with rosewood binding, I think I might go that route.
Thanks again.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:46 am
by Bob Gramann
Nice fit. Congratulations.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:03 pm
by Mike Perez
Back.jpg
With a few coats of shellac.
Very different grain but the fit was spot on.
African (current) on top of Honduran (1982)
Battle scar.

Re: Filling in mahogany gap.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:02 pm
by Bob Gramann
A few months of light exposure ought to darken the patch considerably.